What's in those stores....UK

[Bombom77]

Personal situations aside, I agree 100% Nigel.

I have had a Chase Miles for trade since he came out. They were selling around Rip prices on eBay (25-30 quid) but I was hoping that I could trade him straight up for Rip. Sadly no one seemed to want him and hes now more readily available its unlikely I get that trade.

One thing that bugs me around ebay and collectors however is thus. On the PCD facebook page, it says, and I quote "Listing Cars you have for sale is fine with me, as long as you're not listing them at eBay like prices"

I assume that this stands for the forums too?

Yet there are members who I wont name who have been offering, for example, Haulers for north of 50 quid. That is ebay prices imo yet its against the quoted "rules"

Similarly, people are not open to trading Rip for say, Boost with flames as the "ebay value" doesnt match up. Totally pi$$es me off.

Outside of the pegwarmers such as LMQ/Finn/Francesco, I just dont understand it outside of people's greed.

It should be as simple as I have a car you want, you have a car I want, trade! but folks think that Rip is hard to get therefore maybe worth 2,3 or even 4 of my cars.

I get the superchase things and in fairness, people have said, I want X chase, willing to trade either X, Y and Z for it. Invariably, people have had to trade multiple cars for one car. As collectors (and whilst I am a collector, I enjoy collecting them but do it for my sons primarily) it should be far, far more alturistic however maybe I am being naive.

[carscrazy]

Bombom77 I ageee with the trade thing, Ive also struggled to get rip in trade or purchase with anyone. Rips value is obviously playing a part in that.

Also I think members outside the UK need to consider the fact that not only are cars harder to get but they are alot dearer over here in the UK. There was a thread somewhere that in one place cars worked out at £2.25! Here we pay an average of £5- £6.00.

[maxgc53]

Personal situations aside, I agree 100% Nigel.

I have had a Chase Miles for trade since he came out. They were selling around Rip prices on eBay (25-30 quid) but I was hoping that I could trade him straight up for Rip. Sadly no one seemed to want him and hes now more readily available its unlikely I get that trade.

One thing that bugs me around ebay and collectors however is thus. On the PCD facebook page, it says, and I quote "Listing Cars you have for sale is fine with me, as long as you're not listing them at eBay like prices"

I assume that this stands for the forums too?

Yet there are members who I wont name who have been offering, for example, Haulers for north of 50 quid. That is ebay prices imo yet its against the quoted "rules"

Similarly, people are not open to trading Rip for say, Boost with flames as the "ebay value" doesnt match up. Totally pi$$es me off.

Outside of the pegwarmers such as LMQ/Finn/Francesco, I just dont understand it outside of people's greed.

It should be as simple as I have a car you want, you have a car I want, trade! but folks think that Rip is hard to get therefore maybe worth 2,3 or even 4 of my cars.

I get the superchase things and in fairness, people have said, I want X chase, willing to trade either X, Y and Z for it. Invariably, people have had to trade multiple cars for one car. As collectors (and whilst I am a collector, I enjoy collecting them but do it for my sons primarily) it should be far, far more alturistic however maybe I am being naive.

I personally believe they should get rid of that rule. A car is worth where the Supply and demand curve meets. The market dictates the value, and people should be allowed to sell at what the value is. If the price is too high, then no one will buy, if it is too low then it will get bought fast.


Do not compare greed to selling for the market price. There is a huge demand for older cars, with limited supply. It's the natural tendency for this sort of collectible.



Why would you be p**sed off about people not wanting to trade something worth less? Sure a Volkswagen Beetle is made out of the same material for the most part as a Lamborghini, but the value is so much different. It's how much more sought after Rip is vs. Boost with flames.

We do not see eye to eye on this. But thankfully we live in a place where the markets determine prices, because it is the great equalizer.

[Joshuasmummy]

I'm unsure of who asked about the case 994B outside London, but we have had a few here in Peterborough as I've managed to get Jeff Gorvette, Shu Todoroki, Cactus McQueen, Snot Rod & Boost w/ flames and Holly Shiftwell with Screen. These have all come from Morrisons with one from Tesco.

On another note to share my latest find with you guys-I stopped at Tesco after an evening out last night and they had literally 'just' stocked the usually empty cars shelf! ...After my bargains in Boots (see earlier post) I managed to get the following: Charlie Checker (although this is for trade as I already have one), Miles with Hood up, Sputter Stop, Mater da Bomb and Edwin Kranks! £5 each, and I've never seen any of these in the UK before so I was very chuffed with myself!

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[carscrazy]

Nice finds again! You done really well lately, your collection must be looking even better now

The case in tesco would appear to be the same case as what sainsburys been having.

[boogity]

remember that silver lewis hamilton I got signed in monza, well I got 100 quid for that!

[Enzo]

It wasn't a personal attack against you per se, but it did highlight the *look after number one* attitude of some supposed collectors on here.

And yet your previous post about DS Bath (RIP) and Wheeliams was exactly that per se, a dig aimed straight at Yuffie. Really unwarranted and out of order that.

I completely agree about the "look after No.1" issue (the most glaring recent PCD example of this with the 994B case was done with self-interested US member trades in mind), but then can you really honestly hand on heart say you don't put yourself first when collecting? I'm not talking about the interesting and detailed information you post, which many members (and no doubt lurking guest scalpers) appreciate, but actual purchases and trades helping out other members? Do you really want to go there Nigel?

In contrast, I've had members like Vandance literally send me much-wanted cars for my little boy and actually REFUSE payment, knowing I'll happily return the favour at some point. That's the complete opposite of the mentality you're talking about.

Anyway, it's a shame that this scab has been picked, and hopefully this thread can get back to what it should be about....literally "what's in those UK stores".

And on that note, my local big Boots has always sold Cars but just the usual PC carded suspects. It's possible that reduced price (not technically the lowest, I once bought Finn/Leland for £1.75 retail) was correct as they're probably clearing stockrooms ready for Christmas gift season.

[Enzo]

remember that silver lewis hamilton I got signed in monza, well I got 100 quid for that!

Congrats, not a bad return eh?

[Lozzi31]

Congrats to everyone with great finds recently! Chloe you are on a roll! I also found the Miles Chase box in Tescos Extra.... I needed Darrell with Headset! YAY! I also never saw it in the wild either...

Boogity Thats amazing well done! Genius idea and so glad it paid off for you.

Enzo I did offer you a Boost with Flames earlier in this thread that you may not have seen - This was cos I saw it sitting on a half empty shelf and thought someone on here would have wanted it, after reading the debate of the lack of spread of these. Southampton might not be accessible by some so was happy to send it over to other areas who haven't seen it.....

I do just try to help people out.....

[Junior]

The trends of collecting cars don't differ too much from any other collections.

For every person who would rip someone off rather than help someone there are people who would bend over backwards to help others out. If I find a car that is sought after and I can afford to buy it I do. If I get another of that car I would happily trade it at face value or even give it away in return for a future favour. Every now and again I get left with a dozen cars that no one wants so I either sell them on a local sell/buy page on facebook or stick them on ebay with a 99p start. Also to help funding this increasingly expensive HOBBY I sometimes buy collections on ebay and keep the cars I need and trade or sell the others.

A lot of this is down to the market being flooded with pegwarmers that simply don't sell, and whilst the 2013 cases have had better selections (hence the reason they have disappeared as quickly) the remnants of these cases are still the same as my local stores are still trying to cope with shelf loads of silver racers, LMs, Finns and Francescos. Collectors are more and more resorting to buying factory cases which in this country (UK) means great expense due to shipping and import tax - I guess you cant blame collectors for cherry picking the cars they want and hocking the spare on ebay to recoup some of their losses although some do and will trade if and when they can.

It takes all sorts though folks and as much as I collect for my wee boy and love to see his excitement at finding a new car - I will admit that I have enjoyed the friendship and hospitality of several members who help me out whenever they can and for whom I would do the same at any given opportunity. Healthy debate is always good and there have been a few good ones since I joined just under a year ago but please don't fall into the trap of personal attacks which can cause grudges and bad atmosphere in an environment set up to help people - other forums in other walks of live have went down this route and never recovered and I genuinely wouldn't like to see it happen here.

Now who is willing to trade me a Takeshi for a Finn/Leland 2 pack?

[Junior]

PS. To get back on topic - My Tesco also has the case with Sputter stop, chase miles etc etc - if anyone is struggling for any of these drop me a message and il see what I can do.

[niftynigel]

There's something very odd about the 997V case with Chase Miles. The initial batch that appeared in Sainsburys in May had a date stamp of around 0243EAA to 0303EAA. The batch that appeared at Morrisons at the beginning of July were all from the same vintage. This also covers the Hamleys batch from mid July.

The ones that have been appearing recently in Sainsburys and now Tesco have a date stamp of 0873EAA.

On one hand that is earlier than both 997W and 997Y cases, but that's still a 60 day or two months gap in date stamps with the initial batches.

On the other hand, that's highly irregular and not something I've seen since I've recorded this information (from about Mid 2012 - Cars 2 996S onwards), except the 996Y (with 3 GGGs) that appeared in the UK recently.

This case was either not released in mainland Europe or only in limited quantities? Maybe we can swap it for the 994A case with Ichigo and Nature Drive McQueen in it? Is that a fair swap?

I can only guess that Mattel doesn't think that it can meet the demand with up and coming cases, so it's decided to source more, not quite so new cases?

As there is quite clearly a demand, due to poor distribution of the 994B case, then the obvious thing would be to have another 1,000 of them or import the similar 994A case, so we at least get a chance to get Ichigo!

[niftynigel]

And yet your previous post about DS Bath (RIP) and Wheeliams was exactly that per se, a dig aimed straight at Yuffie. Really unwarranted and out of order that.

I completely agree about the "look after No.1" issue (the most glaring recent PCD example of this with the 994B case was done with self-interested US member trades in mind), but then can you really honestly hand on heart say you don't put yourself first when collecting? I'm not talking about the interesting and detailed information you post, which many members (and no doubt lurking guest scalpers) appreciate, but actual purchases and trades helping out other members? Do you really want to go there Nigel?

In contrast, I've had members like Vandance literally send me much-wanted cars for my little boy and actually REFUSE payment, knowing I'll happily return the favour at some point. That's the complete opposite of the mentality you're talking about.

Anyway, it's a shame that this scab has been picked, and hopefully this thread can get back to what it should be about....literally "what's in those UK stores".

And on that note, my local big Boots has always sold Cars but just the usual PC carded suspects. It's possible that reduced price (not technically the lowest, I once bought Finn/Leland for £1.75 retail) was correct as they're probably clearing stockrooms ready for Christmas gift season.

I don't mind 'going there'. I have never charged anyone more than the face value of a car. I'm not going to start now. OK, putting things on the open market is one thing, but actually ripping off other collectors, maybe even people have become friends is another.

I'm certainly not against market forces, supply and demand, but my first concern is for genuine collectors and the children. There's nothing better than the look of delight on a kids face when they've got that elusive car they've been looking for! A close second for me is being able to share helpful information and then hearing that other collectors found it useful.

When you go into a shop and see ten Chase cars and are tempted to buy the lot, think about the kid who you'll be denying their champagne (or lemonade) moment!

The information is posted in good faith, and as accurate as can be, but as we all know, Mattel change plans, sometimes with little or no warning! That said, half the fun is the chasing around for new cars!

When I hear stores and see pictures of those who've just bought everything in sight, that makes my blood boil.

[yuffie]

what i still fail to understand is why you felt the need to have a real go at me - including making things up about what you think i did - in response to a geniune question about how widespread a new case has been available in the UK

[niftynigel]

what i still fail to understand is why you felt the need to have a real go at me - including making things up about what you think i did - in response to a geniune question about how widespread a new case has been available in the UK

I stand by everything I said.